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Pros and Cons of adding 600 seats to Dunwoody HS

In October, as the DeKalb School District offered up three options to address capacity needs in North DeKalb, the administration met with school councils and had a few meetings around the county. At the time,the administration estimated that, if Option B was selected, $23 million would be spent at Dunwoody High School (DHS) and add an additional 600 seats.

If Option A was selected, SPLOST V money spent in North DeKalb would go towards building a Doraville High School. Once completed, some students would be redistricted out of DHS to a new Doraville High School. Keep in mind, the current attendance zone for Dunwoody High School includes all of the city of Dunwoody, plus one elementary school with an attendance area almost entirely in Doraville.

The DHS school council chair communicated to me that the council wanted to see money spent at DHS. He shared that the council envisioned renovations to existing media rooms, art rooms, locker rooms, band room, choir room, gymnasium, fields and other common areas, in addition to the 600 seats.

Shortly after the DHS school council sent in their letter supporting a modified Option B, including the 600 seat building addition, the administration reduced the amount of money to be spent at DHS from $23 million to $16 million. Subsequent to reducing the funding, the administration then released the conceptual plans which included no renovations and very little additions to common spaces. I can only assume the timing was intentional as they had the conceptual plans since July.



Stan Jester

Moving forward, I’m trying to understand the support for the building addition.
The speculation that some Dunwoody residents would be redistricted out of DHS seems to be the only reason for any continued support of the building additions.


Will the addition of 600 seats (300ish students) or redistricting 600 students out of DHS make things better or worse for the school and the community?

600 Seat Addition District Out 600 Students
Cafeteria Area Worse Better
Kitchen Neutral Neutral
Parking Worse Better
Media Center Neutral Better
Gymnasium Worse Better
Field Space Worse Better
Field Conditions Neutral Neutral
Band Room Space Worse Better
Choral Room Space Neutral Neutral
Hallways Space Worse Better

Supporting Documentation
.pdf link icon October 2016 FTE Enrollment Report, by school, by grade
Dunwoody HS – 600 Seat Addition – Conceptual Plans
.pdf link icon GA DOE Guideline for Square Footage Requirements for Educational Facilities 160-5-4-.16 (a)
.pdf link icon 2017-2022 E-SPLOST Project List

Joshua Williams

Joshua Williams
DeKalb County Chief Operating Officer

“The capacity additions will provide the needed classroom space plus any increase in core spaces (kitchen, cafeteria, gym, and media center) or parking that are needed to serve the larger school size based upon District and GA DOE standards.”
Joshua Williams has made it perfectly clear the school district will do the bare minimum to meet district policy and state standards.

Cafeteria Area
The 600 seat addition will include a cafeteria extension of 485 sq/ft. A 485 sq/ft extension to the cafeteria to accommodate a 600 seat addition makes no sense. Redistricting 600 students out of DHS leaves the students with more cafeteria space per student.
Kitchen
The 2017-2022 E-SPLOST Project List includes $17,000 for new kitchen equipment whether DHS gets the addition or not. The Kitchen extension of 1,731 sq/ft is enough to accommodate the building addition. Redistricting students out of DHS would also help by reducing the necessary kitchen capacity.
Parking
Parking is already atrocious at DHS due to the overcrowding. Along with the building addition, the district recommends paving over the retention pond to add 160 parking spaces. A building addition of 600 seats, 300 more students and untold staff means less parking per student. Redistricting 600 students means more parking per student.
Media Center
GA DOE requirements spell out the Media Center requirements. The new 2,020 sq/ft media center addition keeps pace with the building addition. Redistricting 600 students means more media center space per student.
Gymnasium
The DHS school council chair, Chad Griffith, spoke at length about the capacity issues with the DHS gymnasium. The building additions will do absolutely nothing to address the gym capacity issues and will only make a difficult issue worse. Redistricting 600 students means more gymnasium per student and fewer issues.
Field Space
The building additions does not include a land purchase, and will thus result in less field space per student. Redistricting 600 students means more field space per student.
Field Conditions
The 2017-2022 E-SPLOST Project List includes $.79 million for field improvements. This will happen whether DHS gets an addition or not.
Band Room Space
The band room is a dungeon. From what I can tell, they converted the basement to a room where they put the band. The building additions projects does nothing to address the dungeon. Redistricting 600 students out of DHS will result in more band room per student.
Choral Room
DHS current has no home for the choir. Neither the additional seats nor redistricting students will address that.
Hallways
GA DOE Guideline for Square Footage Requirements says that small schools must have corridors 8ft wide and large schools must have corridors 12ft wide. There is no formula to calculate the recommended width of corridors for mega schools, so DHS is on its own if it adds 600 seats. The hallways would become more crowded. Reducing the population at DHS would help with the overburdened areas like hallways.


Chamblee Charter High governance team has also expressed their opposition to the school district’s plan to add seats to their school. Lakeside High School Council has not made any official statements, but is slated to get 750 new seats They both face similar issues as Dunwoody High School. I plan to blog soon on their issues.

Note: Of the 7 board of education districts that contain 24 high schools, district 1 only contains 2 high schools. District 1 is underserved by high schools.

The Relationship Between Money and Academic Achievement

Is there a link between Academic Achievement and Funding?
Maureen Downey with the AJC writes,

Many critics of public education contend more money doesn’t matter but new research challenges that contention. A recent National Bureau of Economic Research study compared state spending starting in 1990 and found increased funding improved student outcomes.
Harnessing little-used data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress and comparing states that increased funding for their poorest schools with those that did not, researchers found,”Using nationally representative data on student achievement, we find that this spending was productive: Reforms increased the absolute and relative achievement of students in low-income district.”

Note: These results only pertain to the students in the poorest districts. DeKalb has the second highest millage rate in the state and is far from being considered a low income school district.

Schools in DeKalb have been failing in perpetuity. Spending on education in DeKalb has gone up 20% since 2014. The general fund budget in FY2014 was $788 million. The general fund budget for FY2017 is $948 million (and we are about to raise the FY2017 another $13 million).
Increased spending is not the answer in DeKalb. Students from low income families are no excuse. Many school districts across the state have a higher percentage of students on Free or Reduced Lunches (FRL), spend less money per student and perform better academically.
The following table lists all the school districts in Georgia in order of percentage of students on Free or Reduced Lunches. 72% of DeKalb Schools students are on FRL. Note how many schools (in blue) have more students on FRL, perform better academically and spend less per student to do it.

Note: Students from low income families perform better academically in smaller school districts. Big school districts fail our most challenged students.
Note: Before we go throwing more tax dollars at education perhaps we should examine how many school districts in Georgia get far better results, with even more students in poverty, while spending less per pupil. After we understand that, maybe we could look at meaningful ways the state should hold the bureaucrats accountable for the results they get.
School District Students Spending Per Student % FRL CCRPI Score
1 Baker County 313 $12,771 95+ 59.8
2 Ben Hill County 3,106 $9,100 95+ 69.5
3 Bibb County 23,557 $8,956 95+ 60.8
4 Brooks County 2,043 $9,640 95+ 62.2
5 Burke County 4,079 $11,928 95+ 65.4
6 Calhoun County 636 $11,093 95+ 52.6
7 Clay County 245 $14,690 95+ 54.1
8 Clayton County 54,317 $7,894 95+ 64.2
9 Colquitt County 9,217 $8,972 95+ 71.7
10 Crisp County 3,933 $9,370 95+ 67.3
11 Dooly County 1,326 $9,310 95+ 49.1
12 Dougherty County 14,944 $9,366 95+ 65.1
13 Early County 2,105 $9,593 95+ 70.6
14 Evans County 1,749 $9,453 95+ 66.7
15 Greene County 2,303 $12,457 95+ 73
16 Hancock County 921 $11,612 95+ 59.4
17 Jefferson County 2,627 $9,319 95+ 66.9
18 Jenkins County 1,176 $10,401 95+ 56.9
19 Lanier County 1,676 $9,208 95+ 71.2
20 Macon County 1,461 $10,329 95+ 59.6
21 Mitchell County 2,331 $10,343 95+ 71
22 Montgomery County 1,228 $8,674 95+ 56.5
23 Quitman County 305 $14,021 95+ 64
24 Randolph County 925 $11,088 95+ 59
25 Richmond County 30,319 $8,778 95+ 62.4
26 Stewart County 481 $13,377 95+ 60.4
27 Sumter County 4,585 $9,549 95+ 60.3
28 Talbot County 497 $10,868 95+ 52
29 Taliaferro County 148 $22,995 95+ 64.4
30 Terrell County 1,372 $9,726 95+ 54
31 Toombs County 2,912 $9,158 95+ 70.8
32 Treutlen County 1,126 $7,841 95+ 60.7
33 Turner County 1,316 $10,208 95+ 71.7
34 Twiggs County 786 $12,435 95+ 58.3
35 Warren County 614 $12,188 95+ 60.5
36 Wheeler County 942 $10,578 95+ 74.6
37 Dublin City 2,399 $10,405 95+ 53.7
38 Pelham City 1,401 $9,729 95+ 75.2
39 Valdosta City 7,667 $8,614 95+ 71.4
40 Tift County 7,652 $8,471 94.7 73.7
41 Decatur County 5,051 $8,839 94.7 69.3
42 Wilkinson County 1,460 $11,110 94.4 70.9
43 Crawford County 1,652 $8,789 94.2 54.4
44 Wilcox County 1,154 $9,271 93.8 72.4
45 Telfair County 1,657 $8,961 93.8 72.6
46 Wilkes County 1,515 $10,683 93.8 69.8
47 Seminole County 1,508 $9,202 92.6 76.8
48 Worth County 3,218 $8,576 92.6 67.2
49 Clarke County 12,623 $11,513 92.1 66.4
50 Atkinson County 1,657 $9,025 91.2 83.6
51 Echols County 806 $10,133 90.5 81.9
52 Johnson County 1,109 $9,043 90.2 67.5
53 Ware County 5,853 $9,437 90.1 85.4
54 Miller County 992 $9,562 90.1 58.2
55 Meriwether County 2,722 $10,207 89.7 61.7
56 Tattnall County 3,606 $8,317 88.7 71.9
57 Grady County 4,414 $8,153 88.7 67.4
58 Emanuel County 4,079 $8,396 87.6 71.4
59 Peach County 3,621 $9,054 87.5 66.2
60 Butts County 3,347 $8,501 86.9 69.6
61 Jeff Davis County 3,000 $7,973 86.7 70.1
62 Marion County 1,407 $8,384 84.8 70.9
63 Pulaski County 1,306 $9,257 84.8 68.4
64 Clinch County 1,312 $9,141 84.7 63.2
65 Elbert County 2,927 $9,349 84.5 71.7
66 Coffee County 7,489 $8,742 84.1 78.3
67 McIntosh County 1,432 $10,516 84.0 77.7
68 Berrien County 2,989 $8,858 83.5 79.2
69 Polk County 7,595 $8,418 83.2 70.1
70 Baldwin County 5,339 $8,527 83.2 58.3
71 Rome City 6,135 $8,634 82.4 72.6
72 Washington County 3,034 $9,362 82.3 70.5
73 Brantley County 3,287 $8,972 82.0 77.5
74 Thomasville City 2,692 $9,998 81.5 69.8
75 Taylor County 1,392 $9,768 81.2 68.9
76 Thomaston-Upson County 4,093 $8,896 81.1 75.4
77 Dodge County 3,105 $8,831 80.1 70.7
78 Cook County 3,127 $8,190 80.0 75.7
79 Screven County 2,170 $9,315 79.0 71.6
80 Thomas County 5,502 $8,803 77.2 75.5
81 Atlanta Public Schools 50,837 $14,713 77.2 67
82 Long County 3,360 $7,308 77.1 67.2
83 Chattooga County 2,698 $10,109 76.9 65.3
84 Murray County 7,450 $7,587 76.4 75
85 Gainesville City 8,394 $7,935 76.3 70.7
86 McDuffie County 4,069 $8,488 75.9 61.4
87 Spalding County 9,828 $8,957 75.9 67.5
88 Dalton City 7,914 $9,077 75.8 66.1
89 Irwin County 1,684 $9,352 74.9 68
90 Bacon County 2,062 $8,989 74.0 73.1
91 Putnam County 2,740 $11,229 73.7 72.5
92 Stephens County 3,958 $8,038 73.7 74.9
93 Muscogee County 31,097 $8,658 73.4 69
94 Walker County 8,747 $9,405 72.6 73.1
95 Charlton County 1,624 $9,463 72.5 68.9
96 DeKalb County 101,014 $9,552 72.3 67.7
97 Bleckley County 2,381 $8,532 72.2 84.6
98 Appling County 3,446 $9,535 72.2 70.4
99 Whitfield County 13,398 $8,548 71.6 76.1
100 Gilmer County 4,142 $9,204 71.5 71.7
101 Lamar County 2,649 $8,407 71.2 66.7
102 Candler County 2,038 $8,218 71.0 64.8
103 Rockdale County 16,311 $9,311 71.0 76.5
104 Newton County 19,275 $8,805 69.3 70.3
105 Wayne County 5,324 $8,382 68.9 77.2
106 Chattahoochee County 852 $10,326 68.5 67.4
107 Liberty County 9,520 $9,466 67.8 72.2
108 Lincoln County 1,131 $10,036 67.8 77.7
109 Jasper County 2,293 $8,741 66.9 72.7
110 Heard County 1,920 $9,402 66.6 86.2
111 Troup County 12,042 $8,954 66.5 78.3
112 Rabun County 2,176 $11,786 65.7 75.3
113 Chatham County 36,910 $10,064 65.5 65.4
114 Gordon County 6,549 $8,460 65.3 76.1
115 Banks County 2,855 $8,829 64.0 73.8
116 Marietta City 9,087 $10,271 63.9 77.8
117 Laurens County 6,235 $8,520 63.7 73
118 Carroll County 14,414 $8,358 63.6 75.7
119 Commerce City 1,533 $8,270 63.4 77.4
120 Habersham County 6,840 $9,504 63.1 76.7
121 Bulloch County 9,953 $8,917 62.9 71
122 Vidalia City 4,407 $5,075 62.8 70.9
123 Glynn County 13,021 $9,433 62.1 78.3
124 Madison County 4,764 $9,815 62.1 79.9
125 Douglas County 26,267 $8,621 62.0 78.3
126 Hart County 3,448 $9,042 61.3 73.1
127 Union County 2,692 $11,007 60.4 78.5
128 Houston County 27,702 $8,775 60.4 78
129 Floyd County 9,643 $9,771 60.2 71.4
130 Calhoun City 4,071 $7,268 60.1 73
131 Pierce County 3,521 $8,796 59.8 83.3
132 Fannin County 2,943 $10,923 59.7 77.4
133 Hall County 27,916 $8,265 59.4 75
134 Franklin County 3,651 $9,062 59.2 79.3
135 Dade County 1,995 $9,309 59.0 78.2
136 Webster County 380 $11,223 58.7 72.7
137 Bartow County 13,560 $8,684 58.6 69.1
138 Barrow County 13,306 $8,447 58.4 75.1
139 Oglethorpe County 2,131 $9,598 57.1 78.9
140 White County 3,845 $9,602 56.8 83.9
141 Carrollton City 4,901 $8,337 56.0 76.8
142 Cartersville City 4,224 $8,912 56.0 78
143 Glascock County 558 $9,886 55.6 74.5
144 Schley County 1,282 $8,253 55.2 76.9
145 Towns County 1,025 $12,180 55.0 84.5
146 Gwinnett County 180,235 $8,377 54.5 80.5
147 Pickens County 4,266 $9,839 53.4 73.2
148 Haralson County 3,356 $9,745 52.9 73.7
149 Henry County 42,125 $8,330 51.4 72.9
150 Jones County 5,267 $8,754 51.1 80.8
151 Camden County 8,797 $8,271 51.1 81.4
152 Lumpkin County 3,758 $9,070 51.0 80.7
153 Monroe County 3,822 $10,105 50.8 73.1
154 Jackson County 7,300 $8,971 50.7 75.8
155 Lowndes County 10,259 $7,891 50.3 83.7
156 Catoosa County 10,599 $9,172 50.0 77.6
157 Social Circle City 1,633 $9,212 48.7 78.4
158 Walton County 13,495 $8,468 48.6 77.1
159 Fulton County 95,248 $10,072 47.1 74.7
160 Trion City 1,390 $8,378 46.5 79.8
161 Dawson County 3,409 $10,489 46.4 82.8
162 Morgan County 3,112 $9,929 45.9 73.6
163 Cobb County 114,410 $8,893 44.1 79.7
164 Coweta County 22,019 $8,567 42.9 78.1
165 Lee County 6,185 $7,881 42.1 79.2
166 Paulding County 28,759 $8,506 41.6 74.4
167 Buford City 4,423 $9,536 40.9 86.7
168 Pike County 3,335 $7,826 40.5 70.7
169 Effingham County 11,363 $8,498 39.6 81.3
170 Harris County 5,072 $8,939 38.4 79.6
171 Bryan County 8,644 $7,261 37.4 78.8
172 Columbia County 26,033 $7,799 33.2 83.2
173 Cherokee County 41,536 $8,293 30.5 78.1
174 Jefferson City 3,316 $7,099 28.6 87.2
175 Fayette County 20,152 $9,145 26.2 81.9
176 Bremen City 2,162 $8,023 23.8 85.1
177 Chickamauga City 1,363 $7,243 22.9 83.7
178 Oconee County 7,316 $8,438 20.5 89.4
179 Forsyth County 44,529 $7,866 16.5 91.8
180 Decatur City 4,714 $11,546 14.3 86.6